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	Indeed, in late 1976 when '''[[Whose Doctor Who]]''' was in production, the BBC held a complete set of 40 [[Arabic]] prints, plus prints of [[The Web Planet]], [[The Space Museum]] and [[The Chase]]. Did these all come from Iran? (Since the edited print of [[The Web Planet]] part 6 was readily available within the bootleg video networks in the 1980s more so than the unedited version, it's very likely that the edited copy was the one held in 1976.)		Indeed, in late 1976 when '''[[Whose Doctor Who]]''' was in production, the BBC held a complete set of 40 [[Arabic]] prints, plus prints of [[The Web Planet]], [[The Space Museum]] and [[The Chase]]. Did these all come from Iran? (Since the edited print of [[The Web Planet]] part 6 was readily available within the bootleg video networks in the 1980s more so than the unedited version, it's very likely that the edited copy was the one held in 1976.)
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		+	==Items of Interest==
		+	[[File:IranBookA.JPG\|right\|thumb\|300px\|"A Serious and Funny Life", by Maurice Dekobra (1992 reprint edition)]]
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		+	A book was published by Yadegar Publications in Iran in 1943, under the Persian title
		+	'''زندگی شوخی و جدی''' -- which best translates into English as "''A Serious Life with Jokes''" or "''A Serious and Funny Life''".
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		+	Credited to the prolific French author [https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maurice_Dekobra Maurice Dekobra] (1885-1973), this tome was translated into Persian by Zabihullah Mansouri.
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		+	As far as we can tell, this appears to be a collection of French short stories by different writers, and Dekobra was merely the editor.
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		+	Dekobra wrote and collaborated on many books during his long career, but it's not readily clear exactly which of these this is, as the Persian title does not bear a direct translation to any of his known French works.
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		+	But the reason for including this here, is that the book cover of the 1983 edition (and subsequent reprintings) takes a painting of Tom Baker that originally appeared on the back cover of the 1978 '''Doctor Who Annual'''!
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		+	*[https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/44650049 Good Reads data]
		+	{{clear}}
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	With there being more than one TV station in Iran at the time, from that response, it would appear that Levine may have contacted the wrong one!		With there being more than one TV station in Iran at the time, from that response, it would appear that Levine may have contacted the wrong one!

−	If, as we've noted above, the edited episodes of [[The Web Planet]] 1 and 6 that exist today are from NIRTV, then the station would have returned its prints to the BBC. (Indeed, in late 1976 when '''[[Whose Doctor Who]]''' was in production, prints of [[The Web Planet]], [[The Space Museum]] and [[The Chase]] ~~were held by the BBC~~. Since the edited print of [[The Web Planet]] part 6 was readily available within the bootleg video networks in the 1980s, more so than the unedited version, it's very likely that the edited copy was the one held in 1976.)	+	If, as we've noted above, the edited episodes of [[The Web Planet]] 1 and 6 that exist today are from NIRTV, then the station would have returned its prints to the BBC.
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		+	Indeed, in late 1976 when '''[[Whose Doctor Who]]''' was in production, the BBC held a complete set of 40 [[Arabic]] prints, plus prints of [[The Web Planet]], [[The Space Museum]] and [[The Chase]]. Did these all come from Iran? (Since the edited print of [[The Web Planet]] part 6 was readily available within the bootleg video networks in the 1980s more so than the unedited version, it's very likely that the edited copy was the one held in 1976.)

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	With there being more than one TV station in Iran at the time, from that response, it would appear that Levine may have contacted the wrong one!		With there being more than one TV station in Iran at the time, from that response, it would appear that Levine may have contacted the wrong one!

−	If, as we've noted above, the edited episodes of [[The Web Planet]] 1 and 6 that exist today are from NIRTV, then the station would have returned its prints to the BBC. (Indeed, in late 1976 when '''[[Whose Doctor Who]]''' was in production, [[The Web Planet]], [[The Space Museum]] and [[The Chase]] were held by the BBC. Since the edited print of [[The Web Planet]] part 6 ~~were~~ available ~~through~~ the bootleg video networks in the 1980s more so than the unedited ~~one~~, it's very likely that the edited copy was the one held in 1976.)	+	If, as we've noted above, the edited episodes of [[The Web Planet]] 1 and 6 that exist today are from NIRTV, then the station would have returned its prints to the BBC. (Indeed, in late 1976 when '''[[Whose Doctor Who]]''' was in production, prints of [[The Web Planet]], [[The Space Museum]] and [[The Chase]] were held by the BBC. Since the edited print of [[The Web Planet]] part 6 was readily available within the bootleg video networks in the 1980s, more so than the unedited version, it's very likely that the edited copy was the one held in 1976.)

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-All English television is dubbed into Farsi. (It is a possibility that some programming, including '''Doctor Who''', was simulcast in English.)
+Farsi is similar to [[Arabic]], and some programmes may have been broadcast in that language. English programmes were dubbed into Farsi. (It is a possibility that some programming, including '''Doctor Who''', was simulcast in English.)
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 Iran therefore bought GROUP A, B, C, D and E (but minus the four historicals) of the standard non-English package of [[William Hartnell stories]].
-The programme was supplied as 16mm black and white film prints.
+The programme was supplied as 16mm black and white film prints, some with existing [[Arabic]] sound tracks. Note: Although the official language of Iran is Farsi (also known as Persian), it is not too dissimilar to Arabic, so the episodes were probably broadcast as supplied.
 What is not clear is whether NIRTV aired all four episodes of [[An Unearthly Child]] or only the first instalment as was the case in all the other Middle Eastern countries. If the complete 4-parter was not cleared for screening in "the Middle East", then that restriction would also apply to Iran. Certainly, the 1968 sales document noted above does not include parts two to four. On that basis, we feel sure that [[An Unearthly Child]] aired on its own.
-As noted above, it's possible that Iran purchased '''''two''''' packages: the first being the 37 episodes dubbed into [[Arabic]], the second being all 53 episodes and a set of Music / Effects tracks to enable dubbing into Farsi. (NIRTV could have broadcast using the Arabic prints with the sound muted while the dubbed Farsi tracks were played in separately.)
+As noted above, it's possible that Iran purchased '''''two''''' packages: the first being the 37 episodes dubbed into [[Arabic]], the second being all 53 episodes '''in English'''. (NIRTV could have broadcast all three languages simultaneously; Arabic broadcast on television, with the original English and the Farsi dub (if there was one) broadcast over the radio. (The very fact that the TV listings appear in the English newspaper ''Kayhan'' indicates that some television programmes catered for non-Arabic / Farsi viewers.)
-And given that it appears in the TV listings printed in the English version of the ''Kayhan'', did the series also air in English, with that soundtrack broadcast over the radio?
+If this is the case, then this might explain the odd versions of [[The Web Planet]] part 1 and part 6 that exist, the first which is missing the recap lead in from the end of [[The Romans]] (which didn't screen in Iran), and the last which has a different "Next Episode" caption displaying "[[The Space Museum]]" rather than "[[The Crusade|The Lion]]" (which also didn't screen there). Iran is the only Middle Eastern country to screen season two stories beyond [[The Rescue]], suggesting it was possibly the BBC's plan to try selling mixed language formats to other countries, with some episodes modified accordingly.
 ====Origin of the Prints?====
-NIRTV aired the first seven serials in a split block between January and October 1969 -- the very same seven stories that had aired in [[Tunisia]] in 1967. It's therefore possible that Iran received the set of [[Arabic]] prints from Tunisia, plus a separate set of the five serials {{K}} to {{R}} from elsewhere. The Music / Effects tracks tapes for all the episodes would have been supplied by the BBC.
+The Music / Effects tracks tapes for all the episodes would have been supplied by the BBC.
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 With there being more than one TV station in Iran at the time, from that response, it would appear that Levine may have contacted the wrong one!

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 |'''[[WRTH|TV Sets]]'''||1966|| 100,250
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-|'''Language/s'''||Farsi and English||Dubbed
+|'''Language/s'''||Farsi, Arabic and English||Dubbed
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 [[File:IranTV.JPG|thumb|right|400px|27 May 1969 TV listing in Farsi (see below)]]
-The principal language of Iran is Farsi. English is also recognised as a secondary language. All television is dubbed into Farsi. (It is a possibility that some programming, including '''Doctor Who''', was simulcast in English.)
+The principal language of Iran is Farsi. English and [[Arabic]] are also recognised as a secondary language.
 '''Doctor Who''' written in Persian, appears as (read from right to left):
 <span id="Farsi" style="font-size:400%"> دکتر هو</span>
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 Iran is named in the list of 27 countries in '''The Making of Doctor Who''' (1972 Piccolo edition).
-In a BBC sales catalogue from '''October 1968''', it is noted that Iran bought "DR. WHO: Series {{B}}, {{K}}, {{R}} (19 progs)" (which are the three Dalek series) and "DR. WHO: [[Arabic]] (37 progs)". It's clear from this that they acquired the standard package of pre-dubbed [[Arabic]] episodes that were circulated around North Africa and the Middle East (i.e. the package that included only the first episode of [[An Unearthly Child]]). However, that package already included the Dalek stories {{B}} and {{K}} which are also itemized separately.
+In a BBC sales catalogue from '''October 1968''', it is noted that Iran bought "DR. WHO: Series {{B}}, {{K}}, {{R}} (19 progs)" [which are the three Dalek serials in the full package] and "DR. WHO: [[Arabic]] (37 progs)". It's clear from this that they acquired the standard package of pre-dubbed [[Arabic]] episodes that were circulated around North Africa and the Middle East (i.e. the package that included only the first episode of [[An Unearthly Child]]). However, that package already included the Dalek stories {{B}} and {{K}} which are also itemized separately.
 But since {{R}} was not dubbed into [[Arabic]], we might conclude that Iran purchased the standard 37-episode Arabic package '''plus''' another package that included {{B}}, {{K}} and {{R}} (at least) ''in a different format'', such as in English or with Music / Effects tracks only. (Indeed, this would certainly explain why the sale of '''Doctor Who''' to Iran carries two invoice numbers for each serial: one for [[Arabic]] and the other for the alternative version.)
 '''The Seventies''' records a sale of '''"(7)"''' stories by 28 February 1977. '''The Handbook''' identifies these as being: {{C}}, {{F}}, {{G}}, {{J}}, {{N}}, {{Q}} and {{R}}.

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 [[File:IranTV.JPG|thumb|right|400px|27 May 1969 TV listing in Farsi (see below)]]
 The principal language of Iran is Farsi. English is also recognised as a secondary language. All television is dubbed into Farsi. (It is a possibility that some programming, including '''Doctor Who''', was simulcast in English.)
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 Iran is named in the list of 27 countries in '''The Making of Doctor Who''' (1972 Piccolo edition).
 '''The Seventies''' records a sale of '''"(7)"''' stories by 28 February 1977. '''The Handbook''' identifies these as being: {{C}}, {{F}}, {{G}}, {{J}}, {{N}}, {{Q}} and {{R}}.
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 In '''DWM''', Iran is identified in '''8''' story Archives: the same as above, plus {{L}}.
-Although there are only eight stories recorded by these sources, Iran appears to have purchased (by '''July 1968''') the standard package of twelve stories, 56 episodes that were supplied to non-English speaking countries (such as with [[Arabic]] and [[Spanish]]).
+Although there are only eight stories recorded by these sources, Iran appears to have purchased (by '''July 1968''') the standard package of twelve stories, 53 episodes that were supplied to non-English speaking countries (such as with [[Arabic]] and [[Spanish]]).
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 ===[[William Hartnell stories|WILLIAM HARTNELL]]===
-Twelve stories, 56 episodes:
+Twelve stories, 53 episodes:
 {| {{small-table}}
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-|A||[[An Unearthly Child]]||4
+|A||[[An Unearthly Child]]||1
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 |B||[[The Daleks]]||7
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 The programme was supplied as 16mm black and white film prints.
 ====Origin of the Prints?====
-Since NIRTV did its own dubbing into Farsi, it would have been supplied with prints that had just music and effects, presumably directly from the BBC. (There is a possibility that the prints were supplied also with English soundtracks, enabling the programme to be broadcast in both languages.)
+NIRTV aired the first seven serials in a split block between January and October 1969 -- the very same seven stories that had aired in [[Tunisia]] in 1967. It's therefore possible that Iran received the set of [[Arabic]] prints from Tunisia, plus a separate set of the five serials {{K}} to {{R}} from elsewhere. The Music / Effects tracks tapes for all the episodes would have been supplied by the BBC.
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 ===[[William Hartnell stories|WILLIAM HARTNELL]]===
-The first clear listing on channel 3 for '''Doctor Who''' appears on Tuesday, '''27 May 1969''', commencing a run of 21 episodes that ended on '''21 October 1969'''. (There was no episode on 5 August due to it being Constitutional Revolution Day.) The first six  episodes aired at 9.00pm, with the remaining 15 episodes playing at the earlier time of 7.30pm.
+Four months later, two additional listings appear, on Monday, '''2 and 9 March 1970''', at 7.30pm. However, the previous four weeks simply had '''"To Be Announced"''' listed in that half hour time slot, which might mean that six episodes of '''Doctor Who''' aired. (For many weeks prior to 2 February, that slot was occupied by a series billed as '''"Gaspar"''', which is probably a misspelling of [[wikipedia:Casper the Friendly Ghost|"Casper", as in The Friendly Ghost]].)
 On Tuesday, '''2 May 1970''', the series returned, now at the much later time of 11.10pm. In fact, this was the last programme of the evening before "Sign Off". The slot changed to 11.20pm for the third episode before settling in at 10.50pm for the rest of the run of 18 episodes.
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 The 18th and last billing for '''"Dr Who? & Sign Off"''' appeared on '''5 September 1970''', with the same slot – through to 17 October - taken by a listing that simply said '''"FILM"'''; from 24 October the pre-Sign Off slot was filled by a news programme.
-Allowing for the single pre-emption on 25 July (when the slot was filled by "All About Music")), with there being 18 episodes in this run, and with 21 in the 1969 run, that's 39 of the 56 episodes accounted for. Assuming that the two March 1970 episodes are the tail end of a longer run, and that the four "To Be Announced" are also for '''Doctor Who''', those six bring the episode tally to 45, leaving 11 unaccounted for. And 11 is the episode count for the first two serials.
+Allowing for the single pre-emption on 25 July (when the slot was filled by "All About Music"), with there being 18 episodes in this run, and with 21 in the 1969 run, that's 39 of the 53 episodes accounted for. Assuming that the two March 1970 episodes are the tail end of a longer run, and that the four "To Be Announced" billings are also for '''Doctor Who''', those six bring the episode tally to 45, leaving eight unaccounted for. And that is also the episode count for the first two serials.
 On that basis, we think the 27 May to 21 October 1969 run is [[Inside the Spaceship]] to [[Planet of Giants]] [*]; the six episodes in February / March 1970 is [[The Dalek Invasion of Earth]] (the reason for the four "To Be Announced" billings may have been down to uncertainty as to whether the Dalek story could be cleared in time for transmission); and the 2 May to 5 September 1970 run consists of [[The Rescue]] to [[The Chase]], with the pre-empting "All About Music" neatly slotting in between [[The Space Museum]] and [[The Chase]]. This also means that [[The Chase]] part six is the last of the episodes billed as '''"Dr Who?"''' before the generic '''"FILM"''' listings kick-in the following week.
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-This just leaves the first two serials / 11 episodes unaccounted for.
+This just leaves the first two serials / eight episodes unaccounted for.
 BBC records indicate that the series was sold to Iran by '''11 July 1968'''. During May through August 1968, there was a high number of consecutive weekly listings in ''The Kayhan'' that simply said '''"To Be Announced"'''.
-There were no TV listings at all in the December 1968 issues of ''The Kayhan''. However, during January 1969, the 7.00pm slot on Wednesdays was listed as '''"To Be Announced"''' for five consecutive weeks, while the 1 January 1969 issue was missing, and the 12 and 19 February papers had no listings at all for channel 3. (From 26 February, the listings for channel 3 reappeared.)
+There were no TV listings at all in the December 1968 issues of ''The Kayhan''. However, during January 1969, the 7.00pm slot on Wednesdays was listed as '''"To Be Announced"''' for five consecutive weeks, while the 1 January 1969 issue was missing, and the 12 and 19 February papers had no listings at all for channel 3. (From 26 February, the listings for channel 3 reappeared, but they did not have a listing for '''Doctor Who'''.) This gives us a perfect eight week window.
-It's a bit of a stretch, but the fact that there is a run of 12 weeks without a clear indication as to what aired on Wednesdays at 7.00pm, the first 11 episodes of '''Doctor Who''' could have aired at this time. (If so, the series might have been pre-empted on 25 December.) The Airdates table has been noted accordingly.
+Based on the fact that there is a run of 12 weeks without a clear indication as to what aired on Wednesdays at 7.00pm, the "missing" eight episodes of '''Doctor Who''' could quite easily have aired at this time. The Airdates table has been noted accordingly.

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	On '''20 October 1967''', the NZBC ([[New Zealand]]) sent episodes one and two of [[Marco Polo]] to Iran. These must have been supplied as "audition" prints (see [[Selling Doctor Who]] for more on these types of prints). Although [[Marco Polo]] was not included in the package of [[William Hartnell stories]] offered to non-English language countries (e.g. [[Arabic]], [[Spanish]]), Iran must have considered '''Doctor Who''' a worthy purchase...		On '''20 October 1967''', the NZBC ([[New Zealand]]) sent episodes one and two of [[Marco Polo]] to Iran. These must have been supplied as "audition" prints (see [[Selling Doctor Who]] for more on these types of prints). Although [[Marco Polo]] was not included in the package of [[William Hartnell stories]] offered to non-English language countries (e.g. [[Arabic]], [[Spanish]]), Iran must have considered '''Doctor Who''' a worthy purchase...
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		+	Iran is named in the list of 27 countries in '''The Making of Doctor Who''' (1972 Piccolo edition).

	'''The Seventies''' records a sale of '''"(7)"''' stories by 28 February 1977. '''The Handbook''' identifies these as being: {{C}}, {{F}}, {{G}}, {{J}}, {{N}}, {{Q}} and {{R}}.		'''The Seventies''' records a sale of '''"(7)"''' stories by 28 February 1977. '''The Handbook''' identifies these as being: {{C}}, {{F}}, {{G}}, {{J}}, {{N}}, {{Q}} and {{R}}.

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 Iran began its television service in 1966. To begin with, there was one commercial television broadcaster: '''Television of Iran''', which operated channels 3 (also known as '''TV1''') and 7 ('''TV2''').
-A second broadcaster was '''AFRTS''', which was operated by the local US Air Force station; this was AFTV-Channel 8.
+A second broadcaster was part of the '''[[Armed Forces Network]]''', which was operated by the local US Air Force station; this was AFTV-Channel 8.
 In May 1969, '''Television of Iran''' became '''[[wikipedia: National_Iranian_Radio_%26_Television|National Iranian Radio & Television (NIRTV / NITV)]]''', operating channels 3, 7 and 9.

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 There were no TV listings at all in the December 1968 issues of ''The Kayhan''. However, during January 1969, the 7.00pm slot on Wednesdays was listed as '''"To Be Announced"''' for five consecutive weeks, while the 1 January 1969 issue was missing, and the 12 and 19 February papers had no listings at all for channel 3. (From 26 February, the listings for channel 3 reappeared.)
-It's a bit of a stretch, but the fact that there is a run of 12 weeks without a clear indication as to what aired on Wednesdays at 7.00pm, the first 11 episodes of '''Doctor Who''' could have aired at this time. (If so, the series might have been pre-empted on 25 December.) The Airdates table ahs been noted accordingly.
+It's a bit of a stretch, but the fact that there is a run of 12 weeks without a clear indication as to what aired on Wednesdays at 7.00pm, the first 11 episodes of '''Doctor Who''' could have aired at this time. (If so, the series might have been pre-empted on 25 December.) The Airdates table has been noted accordingly.
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 Farsi listings are from the Persian / Iranian newspaper, ''Ittila'at''.
-English TV listings are from the English-language Iranian newspapers ''The Kayhan (International Edition)'' and ''Tehran Journal''. Most of the ''Journal's'' listings for the '''Doctor Who''' timeslot say "FILM". None of the listings gave episode titles.
+English TV listings are from the English-language Iranian newspapers ''The Kayhan (International Edition)'' and ''Tehran Journal''.
-The first few listings give the title as '''"Dr Who"''', then '''"Dr Who?"''', complete with question mark.
+The ''Kayhan'' gave the title as '''"Dr Who"''', then '''"Dr Who?"''', complete with question mark. Most of the ''Journal's'' listings for the '''Doctor Who''' timeslot say "FILM". None of the listings gave episode titles.
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